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how long is this project going to stall?
Posted: 19 Mar 2013, 01:22
by freedeanna
The question "has this project stalled" was asked here about 14 months ago, and the answer came back that the "developer" wasn't going to let the project drop, but had been rather busy. I'm sorry, but I'd like to offer some feedback as a user - it's irritating. If you're not going to develop a program, for whatever reason, or you haven't found time for over a year, do the decent thing and offer it up for someone else who has got time to develop it. I have to admit that I am usually the first to point out when users make demands of development teams in relation to programs they have not paid a dime for, but on this occasion I find myself on the other side of the fence. I have invested in Keynote - I have spent many hours trying to identify and clarify the exact nature of bugs. I have used this excellent software to make notes of them. I have reported them via the program. And I have waited patiently for years for some sign that Keynote would move on any of the issues I have to grapple with everyday. I'm becoming an expert at navigating Keynote's odd little foibles. Probably one of the reasons I'm angry is because it has such incredible potential and is already 90% brilliant. But another - which I think vindicates my position - is that when I chose to use it, I did so because the "developer" appeared committed to the project, dedicated to it - I didn't want to move all my data into yet another outliner later. I felt reassured that bugs would be ironed out - I was even invited to help iron them out by reporting them.
I see that in the last 14 months of apparent total stagnation on this project, a few people have left their congratulations and thanks for how brilliant it is. But if memory serves, the current "developer" can't take the credit, as he took on the project in a similar condition to how it is now.
Apparently, Keynote is not being developed. I know it doesn't owe me anything. But this current "developer" does - he owes me either that he develops it or moves it on to someone else who might have more time. And if he could send them my reams of bug reports, that would be just great.
Re: how long is this project going to stall?
Posted: 07 Apr 2013, 12:06
by ben221
I agree fully with this comment. No real development in keynote has taken place over the last 5 years. And any new things introduced do not justify the length of time. If the current author hasn't the time he should leave it to someone else to develop. I feel keynote is such a useful application it cannot be allowed to die away.
If only the Daniel could spend more time and make more frequent updates I would be willing to pay for my use of keynote (I had offered this to the original author back in 2005)
For me Keynote has been superceded by RightNote
Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 17:35
by billym99
I was very happy using Keynote NF for about a year until I found out about the Rightnote program. It is very much like Keynote except WAY BETTER.
You can download it here:
http://bauerapps.com/rightnote/
There is a free version available, as well as a "Standard" version ($29) and "Pro" version ($59).
But your initial download includes 30-day trial of Pro version. During my trial period I liked it so much that I was VERY happy to pay the $29 to upgrade it to the Standard version. If you do that you can again upgrade from Standard to Pro for another $29.
I can't give a whole review here. You should just get the download and try out the 30-day Pro demo and I think you will quickly see the superiority over Keynote. It is well worth $29.
A couple of things it does which I love:
1. If you copy some stuff from a webpage and paste it into a (richview) note the program includes a
working link to the source page and all hyperlinks in the pasted material are ALSO working links in your note. If you double-click any link in your note the target is opened in your default browser. (If you DON'T want this behavior there is a hot-key for "Paste as Text").
This feature lets me keep notes of all my web surfing (under various tree-node categories) and I can get back to any source with a double-click.
2. You can export any note to a "html note" which is actually a working web page and solves a long standing difficult programming challenge of converting Richtext to Html. It WORKS! The program makes css style codes for your Richtext styles and writes them to the HEADER section of the exported "html note" giving you a web page version of your note. It amazed me.
Features 1 & 2 above mean that you can use Rightnote to create whole websites. That alone was worth $29 for me!
Oh yes, and the Rightnote program can also IMPORT ENTIRE KEYNOTE FILES into any node, so all your old files can be automatically updated to Rightnote format.
There is one feature in the Pro version that might eventually be worth the $29 upgrade: the ability to import WHOLE WEB PAGES as notes. It works great in the 30-day demo.
Bill Morgan
Re: how long is this project going to stall?
Posted: 12 Dec 2016, 17:52
by bulrush
I do like Keynote, and I have 20 years invested in using Keynote, and my note file is now 32mb. I do hope they continue to fix bugs at least.
Re: how long is this project going to stall?
Posted: 13 Dec 2016, 19:22
by dpradov
Of course, I will continue fixing bugs, and also including enhancements. Sorry if new versions comes so slowly. The fact is that I have improvements in standby that I have to finish, but many times I have TOO MUCH work in my company (not mine, company I belong to). If you have seen, I have done an important work of reorganizing the project in Github, and I have been working in KN at the beginning of the year, releasing two new versions (Beta 5 and Beta 6). But then I had to stop again because "of the work at work".
But KN is not abandoned, although it seems.
Re: how long is this project going to stall?
Posted: 14 Jan 2017, 18:03
by catanchin
If the current author hasn't the time he should leave it to someone else to develop
do the decent thing and offer it up for someone else who has got time to develop it
Curious, why does the current author need to offer it up to someone else to develop, why is this not happening already (other people contributing code, fixes etc). Is there a copyright issue or something? I see 28 forks on GitHub, each without a single commit. If someone were to become active on the project in a fork, would there be a problem with that?